car problems.....

[xjoewhitex]

Seems to be all i ever have is problems with my cars.. duno why im not hard on them.. but as you guys know from the mini meet we just had, that there is a squeling noise and a rattle comming from my engine bay. i havent had the chance to go get it looked at yet because i the lack of funds in my wallet. but im not gonna drive it , unless it is to the shop monday morning..

i just took it around the block here tonight and the noise is getting louder and more frequent. So im kinda getting worried. Is there anything that i could look at that you guys know of that could be a major factor in this?

[jamesN272]

What kind of squealing noise? Get somewhat louder as rpms go up?

Could be a belt?

The rattle...I don't know man...can you give us some more details?

Could be as simple as a loose something or other.

[Kurt_W]

First thing I would do is disconnect the alternator belt and see if the sound goes away. I kinda thought it was coming from that area. If thats not it we'll have to think of something else.

[daveb91]

Get it looked at? You will find it cheaper and more help with experience if you buy a manual and start tearing in it yourself.

[Feedman]

Get it looked at? You will find it cheaper and more help with experience if you buy a manual and start tearing in it yourself.

even a simple Haynes manual can do wonders....run down to Autozone/Advance and pick one up. Knowledge is power... 8)

[xjoewhitex]

First thing I would do is disconnect the alternator belt and see if the sound goes away. I kinda thought it was coming from that area. If thats not it we'll have to think of something else.

I will try that first and see what happens. Also i got some Belt dressing would that help?

What kind of squealing noise? Get somewhat louder as rpms go up?

Could be a belt?

The rattle...I don't know man...can you give us some more details?

Could be as simple as a loose something or other.

well not really thats what i thought it was doing but its just getting louder the more i let it go. but i havent been Drving it because i heard the way hondas are if you let something go to long it all goes " Boom " :(

[xjoewhitex]

well i just took a look at it. tried to get the alter. belt off got it al loosened up but i couldnt figure out how to get the other belt off because its over top of it :? any ideas honda drivers? Also having one of the belts loose i had a chance to look at them. they do seem to have some wear and looks like they may need to be replaced. they have small Cracks in them on the tips of the groves.

Well also i was just tinkering around looking to see if i could find something that looked loose or anything to find that rattle, I did find a bolt that was 3/4 the way out( the one bolt that held on the timing belt cover) but Still rattles so that wasnt the cause :cry: I am going to figure out a way to get some money so i can take it to the shop monday or at least just let them look at it.

[jamesN272]

well i just took a look at it. tried to get the alter. belt off got it al loosened up but i couldnt figure out how to get the other belt off because its over top of it :? any ideas honda drivers? Also having one of the belts loose i had a chance to look at them. they do seem to have some wear and looks like they may need to be replaced. they have small Cracks in them on the tips of the groves.

Well also i was just tinkering around looking to see if i could find something that looked loose or anything to find that rattle, I did find a bolt that was 3/4 the way out( the one bolt that held on the timing belt cover) but Still rattles so that wasnt the cause :cry: I am going to figure out a way to get some money so i can take it to the shop monday or at least just let them look at it.

It'd be a GOOD idea to replace all those belts ASAP :shock:

Pick up the Haynes at Autozone, but I would head to Advance to get the belts. There's a guy (the young one) there that knows a good bit about hondas (told me he's in the process of building two of them) and he could come out, take a look, and help you get ALL the right ones.

I didn't think it was too big of a job, so I took my mazda down to Larry Simmons when it's belts were squealing...I got RAPED, I thought they had put on a new alternator for that price :x

I can't remember how much it was, but you wouldn't believe me if I told you.

It's a simple job you can do yourself, so just head to Advance or whatever, pick up all the belts and get to it 8)

[Feedman]

Look up on the net, what the general maintence for that year car and the milage that it has and do it asap. Don't let it get out of hand by waiting. Also, make sure everything else prior has been maintained too. 8)

[xjoewhitex]

Don't let it get out of hand by waiting. i know that. thats why i havent drove my car at all since i got it home friday night. I don't want anything to happen to it by driving it on its problems. :cry:

[daveb91]

Rattle could be a heat shield. :?

[xjoewhitex]

Rattle could be a heat shield. :? well that is one possibility that i never even thought about. There isnt any bolts in my heat Sheild, but the source of the rattle doesnt seem to be comming from there but il check tomarrow.

BTW what do you guys think it would cost to get the belts ect. fixed at a shop?

[Feedman]

depends really on the shop.

if you value money more than time, be my guest.... 8)

[xjoewhitex]

depends really on the shop.

if you value money more than time, be my guest.... 8)

oh it's more money on my favor i would rather fix it my self. just that im not sure if i would even fix it right. motors is a newer thing for me i know about them just not how to fix them, just wana get it done right.. If one of you guys would wana come over some night and gime some guidance i would rather do that. I just wana get it fixed :cry:

checked it out its not the Heat Sheild :? im still looking for the source.

[xjoewhitex]

I think i really mest up now :cry: well i got it looked at today we figured it was just the alt. belt that was sqeaking because i sprayed some dressing on it today and it completely stoped so i figured sweet il get it all fixed tomarrow change the belts ect. Well i went and hung out with some of the ricer friends i have, And they talked me into ***** him. So after it was over with everything seemed fine. On the way home i thought i heard something so i stoped i started to hear that rattle once again. THen Clunk clunk lcunk lciun shewwwss Clunk. automaticly shut it off> and now im freaking out not knowing wth that noise is, But knowing its not good at all. but the Car is running fine no bogging down or anything.. Also i was checking around to see what was going on with it as soon as i got hom and I noticed a bunch of fluid on a cupple of things around the timming case.. Smells and looks to be as for what i can see Anti-freeze. What is that noise??? :?: please tell me i didnt blow it

[Feedman]

headgasket.....?


if your lucky maybe a hose cracked or something.... 8)

[xjoewhitex]

headgasket.....?


if your lucky maybe a hose cracked or something.... 8)

thats what i was thinking about the head gasket but where is the noise comming from?

[ShortysTRM]

The Video of joewhite's integra: http://atabo.com/broken_teg.mpg

[Feedman]

The Video of joewhite's integra: http://atabo.com/broken_teg.mpg

Well that inital squealing is defintly a belt. Powersteering,Alt,A/c....

The rattling....rod knocking? Heat shield from the manifold...Valve adjustment....

How does it drive, idle?

We need some more info to help diagnose your problem.... 8)

[xjoewhitex]

The Video of joewhite's integra: http://atabo.com/broken_teg.mpg

Well that inital squealing is defintly a belt. Powersteering,Alt,A/c....
The rattling....rod knocking? Heat shield from the manifold...Valve adjustment.... How does it drive, idle?
We need some more info to help diagnose your problem.... 8)

well yea its running fine just that horrible noise, and the anti-Freeze leak around the Timming belt chamber. Almost know that it is for sure it is the Head Gasket. I think you may be right on the valve ajustment.

So thats were i think i am at..
1.head gasket
2.valve ajustment

[daveb91]

How do you know it needs a valve adj? The only way other than taking the valve cover off is maybe it sounds a little um lets say tickyer, is that a word?

[daveb91]

Oh do a compression test that will tell you alot.

[xjoewhitex]

im not sure on anything this is just what people have been telling me that is what im going off of.

[daveb91]

If it is the HG it would be very wise to have the head check out for warpage.

[xjoewhitex]

If it is the HG it would be very wise to have the head check out for warpage. where would you sugest i go that would be at a decent cost..?

[someone]

The Video of joewhite's integra: http://atabo.com/broken_teg.mpg

Well that inital squealing is defintly a belt. Powersteering,Alt,A/c....
The rattling....rod knocking? Heat shield from the manifold...Valve adjustment.... How does it drive, idle?
We need some more info to help diagnose your problem.... 8)

well yea its running fine just that horrible noise, and the anti-Freeze leak around the Timming belt chamber. Almost know that it is for sure it is the Head Gasket. I think you may be right on the valve ajustment.

So thats were i think i am at..
1.head gasket
2.valve ajustment

the coolant leak around the timing belt chamber could be from a bad water pump. You should check that out. That noise that your car is making is not nessasarly your valves. Im thinkin more in the range of a spun rod bearing. When did this exactly happen and around what rpms?

[xjoewhitex]

well i didn't know it even happend, i passed this car going like 65 maybe, then drove 60 home.. When i got about a mile from town i heard this whistling. So i stoped at this gas station and listen to it and it was making that clunking sound. im guessing around 5.5k rpm's.. im not sure tho :(

[Feedman]

The Video of joewhite's integra: http://atabo.com/broken_teg.mpg

Well that inital squealing is defintly a belt. Powersteering,Alt,A/c....
The rattling....rod knocking? Heat shield from the manifold...Valve adjustment.... How does it drive, idle?
We need some more info to help diagnose your problem.... 8)

well yea its running fine just that horrible noise, and the anti-Freeze leak around the Timming belt chamber. Almost know that it is for sure it is the Head Gasket. I think you may be right on the valve ajustment.

So thats were i think i am at..
1.head gasket
2.valve ajustment

the coolant leak around the timing belt chamber could be from a bad water pump. You should check that out. That noise that your car is making is not nessasarly your valves. Im thinkin more in the range of a spun rod bearing. When did this exactly happen and around what rpms?


I didn't say that was his valves, I just reminded him, if he has the head or valve cover off, do a valve adjustment, with over 160k+ miles on the ticker, I bet it has never been done.... 8)


Spun a bearing...hmm...does it have plenty of oil....also, when you were "passing" this car, were you really getting on it, full throttle?

Compression check should be next on your list....that will determine a faulty headgasket....? Have you checked your plugs for burnt coolant, changed your oil? 8)

[xjoewhitex]

I didn't say that was his valves, I just reminded him, if he has the head or valve cover off, do a valve adjustment, with over 160k+ miles on the ticker, I bet it has never been done.... 8)
Spun a bearing...hmm...does it have plenty of oil....also, when you were "passing" this car, were you really getting on it, full throttle?
Compression check should be next on your list....that will determine a faulty headgasket....? Have you checked your plugs for burnt coolant, changed your oil? 8)

Well i know im breaking a movFast rule, but i raced someone earlier that night But it was long after then the noise started. The motor has plenty of oil in it, i did check that and im sure now there isnt any coolent in the motor now, when i started it up for the video the other day it all leaked out of the timing case. well thats where it looks to be comming from. I was gonna get a compression check soon to get some more in detail whats wrong.. And even take it to larry simmons to get it looked at and see if they can find the problem.

[Feedman]

Larry Simmons is gonna rape you.....take it to a local mechanic....I recommend Pete & Libby's in Vienna by Peoples News. I know everyone there, they seem to be a little high, but there hard working honest guys. So you can trust when they tell you something is wrong, it really is. My neighbor works there....along time ago, before I was comfortable working on my own car I took it there..... 8)

[xjoewhitex]

Larry Simmons is gonna rape you.....take it to a local mechanic....I recommend Pete & Libby's in Vienna by Peoples News. I know everyone there, they seem to be a little high, but there hard working honest guys. So you can trust when they tell you something is wrong, it really is. My neighbor works there....along time ago, before I was comfortable working on my own car I took it there..... 8)Maybe you could roll up with me here in a cupple of days since you know them..?

[someone]

You say the engine has no coolant at all, and it is leaking out of the timing belt case? Is there a bead of Coolant along your oil pan? If so, its most likely dripping through the timing case from the water pump. Id say faulty water pump, time to get a timing belt and water pump change.

Pull out your dipstick and check for coolant in your oil, thats a way to tell if your HG is blown. Yet its not blowing any kind of smoke out at all?

[xjoewhitex]

now that makes alot of sence now that i think about it. We checked the oil didnt seem to have any coolent it it at all, no smoke. maybe there is the problem the water pump because that is where it is located. Il have to look into that hopefuly that is the problem jus the wp. :?

[andy5.0]

i would say water pump as well, i had that problem with my old CRX. Also with 160,000 miles you definitely need to change the timing belt if it hasnt been done already. it is cheap insurance to keep from destroying your head(also happened to me). :) BTW, nice lookin teg... i love that body style...

[xjoewhitex]

i would say water pump as well, i had that problem with my old CRX. Also with 160,000 miles you definitely need to change the timing belt if it hasnt been done already. it is cheap insurance to keep from destroying your head(also happened to me). :) BTW, nice lookin teg... i love that body style...

thanks.. 8)

[xjoewhitex]

Does anyone have any local shops that they go to that they trust? I think im gonna look for another shop to go to, this is taking way to long.. :? tired of waiting on them to get a spot open..

[daveb91]

i dont know never used a shop before but if it turns out bad Kurt and I talked to a guy yesterday and he had two B18a1s sitting in the garage. From the sound of it he will be joining the site looks like he is well on his way to swapig on in a 88-91 civic hatch looked good.

[xjoewhitex]

i think im gonna start working on it my self.. can't be that hard i got a book.. :?

[xjoewhitex]

Well jamie and i got to tear into it today.. We are about 45% done with the waterpump project, but we are currently stuck.. Because of the CrankShaft pulley.. it seems to be on there very well, and we can't break it loose.. any idea's?? impact is useless Not enought force to break it.. :?

[Feedman]

Well jamie and i got to tear into it today.. We are about 45% done with the waterpump project, but we are currently stuck.. Because of the CrankShaft pulley.. it seems to be on there very well, and we can't break it loose.. any idea's?? impact is useless Not enought force to break it.. :?

Go to Autozone or Advanced and "rent" a crank puller. Get a 5 ton 3 jaw puller and you will be fine. It pops right off. I think they are around ~$80 bucks....use it, then onced returned you get all of your money back. I would suggest taking the time to replace your timing belt why you have all this done.....

p.s. if this has been covered prior I apologize, I don't remember what has been discussed in this thread and haven't read it for a while.... 8)

[daveb91]

Big cheater bar! And some PB blaster.

[xjoewhitex]

Well jamie and i got to tear into it today.. We are about 45% done with the waterpump project, but we are currently stuck.. Because of the CrankShaft pulley.. it seems to be on there very well, and we can't break it loose.. any idea's?? impact is useless Not enought force to break it.. :?

Go to Autozone or Advanced and "rent" a crank puller. Get a 5 ton 3 jaw puller and you will be fine. It pops right off. I think they are around ~$80 bucks....use it, then onced returned you get all of your money back. I would suggest taking the time to replace your timing belt why you have all this done.....

p.s. if this has been covered prior I apologize, I don't remember what has been discussed in this thread and haven't read it for a while.... 8)

yea i thought of Trying autozone for a rent-a-tool, but i didn't know if they would have something that i would be able to use.. but awesome il go pick up one of those in the morning.... And also the Timing Belt is just a cupple months old so if we are carefull it can be reused...

Big cheater bar! And some PB blaster.

Won't work... The we can turn it.. But the Crankshaft is turning with it.. we need a tool that will hold the pulley so we can take the bolt off.. Which thanks to adam we should have a solution... 8)

[daveb91]

The puller wont keep it from turning. It will just pull it off the shaft you still have to get the bolt out.

[xjoewhitex]

The puller wont keep it from turning. It will just pull it off the shaft you still have to get the bolt out.

oh.... well it said in the book to use a chain rachet... would Autozone carry one of those??

[m pwrd 3]

I know the puller wont keep it still. I have a gear puller and we can pull the pully off easy........ but we cant get the bolt out of the crank pulley. The impact gun wouldn't even break it loose. We need a way to keep the pully stationary so that I can torque on the ratchet.

[daveb91]

Can you put a bar in the fly wheel inspection plate to keep it from turning which would keep the crank from turning maybe maybe not?

[m pwrd 3]

ahh I will attempt that tomorrow

thanks

[Feedman]

When I did it, I took a 1/4 extension and wedged it in between the flywheel and the block. Worked just fine. I then took a 3/4 ratchet and put the end of my 3 ton jack handle on it and it broke free......

simple. 8)

[Kurt_W]

Both Dave and Adam's ways work well. All you have to do is pull the flywheel cover plate.

If that method fails, pull the starter out and using a long straight ended crowbar of large flat blade screwdriver stop the crank from turning. To do this, simply find one of the holes in the pressure plate and catch the end of the screwdriver/crowbar in it. Have one person hold the bar and one person loosen the crank bolt.

Be warned that bolt is probably on there very tight as the previous owner had access to a very large compressor.

[xjoewhitex]

i can't find any holes to put anything in... And the inpact Isn't Moving it a bit... :?

[Kurt_W]

You're not paying attention, read the posts more throughly. Any places you're going to find to get at the flywheel require you remove parts.

[Racerx300zx]

Where are you located Joe, sounds like you could use a little help?

[RobbieNelson]

i can't find any holes to put anything in...

That's a classic. Put it in the "quotes" thread.

[Feedman]

i can't find any holes to put anything in...

That's a classic. Put it in the "quotes" thread.

done... 8)

[daveb91]

Put some hair around it!

[xjoewhitex]

Where are you located Joe, sounds like you could use a little help?

newport about 25 mins.. From marietta walmart.. 8)

[xjoewhitex]

FixED 8)

[Feedman]

Good, glad to hear you got that monster knocked out.

How much longer until you are back on the road..... 8)

[Davis Silver Sti]

Quick update on Joe:

He stopped by my work yesterday with his Teg. Looks good. His water pump went out and has been replaced and the car now works fine.
I'm telling you this because his Hard Drive went out on his puter and can't get online etc.. He also wants to know what is going on tonight (Fri). I told him probably the usual CC hang.

Have a good weekend

[xjoewhitex]

Good, glad to hear you got that monster knocked out.

How much longer until you are back on the road..... 8) Back out now... Went to the Gaming night at robbie's Finaly.. 8) But yea it's Great to be back on the road again...

[Smooth_Puddin]

Damn Joe didnt realize you went through all that hell with the car.

Call me up next time if you need any help, im pretty knowledgeable on D and B Series Honda Motors.

FYI I adjusted the valves when I first got the car when it had 145k on it.

I noticed in a thread you said you have a GS-R ECU, but its just a PR4 LS ecu thats chipped with an insane rev limiter but i would go no further than 6800

I hope your troubles are over with the car, and hopefully you can enjoy it like I did, and hopefully not get caught as many times as I did by the cops.

[xjoewhitex]

Damn Joe didnt realize you went through all that hell with the car.

Call me up next time if you need any help, im pretty knowledgeable on D and B Series Honda Motors.

FYI I adjusted the valves when I first got the car when it had 145k on it.

I noticed in a thread you said you have a GS-R ECU, but its just a PR4 LS ecu thats chipped with an insane rev limiter but i would go no further than 6800

I hope your troubles are over with the car, and hopefully you can enjoy it like I did, and hopefully not get caught as many times as I did by the cops.

i knew you said something like that but i couldn't remember..

yea its all fixed up now and i hope the car problems are over.. But they always seem to find me.. :? But just in case it finds me again il look you up.. 8) Since you did have this car for 4 years you should know alot about it

[xjoewhitex]

another problem has arived to my list.. :cry: I noticed it after the second run at the autocross when i had trouble stoping.... well when i hit the brakes easy it seems to not work as well and it gives almost to the floor sometimes.. But it's only when pressed easy and held in...

But when i slam the brakes hard or apply alot of pressure at once it seems to have all the brakes pressure there...

I looked at my brake fluid chamber and it is completely Full... im thinking i could have air in the lines but i don't know a whole lot about brake systems... can someone help.. :?

[Feedman]

pads?

what r u using?

8)

[xjoewhitex]

i just replaced everythin.... Lifetime AutoZone pads but that can't be the problem it has to lye within the breaklines or something...

[Kurt_W]

If the pedal is sinking to the floor with constant pressure that most likely indicates that the brake master cylinder has gone bad. If that car still has the original MC after 166k, I wouldn't be surprised if its worn out.

[Smooth_Puddin]

Could just be air in the lines since you just redid your brakes. Try bleeding the brakes on all 4 corners. Do it multiple times(3-6 times) because rarely will one time get all the air out and then see if the pressure comes back to what it once was.

If that doesnt work then it is definately your MC.

[daveb91]

or check to make sure you caliper pistons are not leaking the crx has the same calipers as your teg and i had to rebuild one of the back calipers.

[xjoewhitex]

thats what i was thinking it could be.. I will bleed the brakes today and if that doesn't work then i guess i will have to get it in the shop again.. :cry:

[Feedman]

Could just be air in the lines since you just redid your brakes. Try bleeding the brakes on all 4 corners. Do it multiple times(3-6 times) because rarely will one time get all the air out and then see if the pressure comes back to what it once was.

If that doesnt work then it is definately your MC.


If you bleed your brakes. Start @ the right rear in your case, then left rear, then right front then lastly left front.

You always start farthest away and work your way toward the Master Cylinder.


Check the pads. If the backs don't look worn, maybe the calipers aren't working. I also had to rebuild a rear caliper on my ex once.

Lastly, just b/c you have lifetime breaks doesn't mean anything.

There are different materials that brakes are made out of.

Organic
Semi-Metallic
Ceramic
Etc.


I am assuming you didn't pay alot for them, so you prolly have organic pads, which in my experience don't last very long and aren't the grippiest.

I would upgrade to some Semi-Metallic, anything else and you will find that you will be changing rotors as much as pads...

Good luck.... 8)

[xjoewhitex]

yea i plan on getting better brake pads soon all i was saying was that i just replaced everything and all i have on them would be about 500miles so that can't be the problem.. but im trying to bleed the brakes right now to see if that's the problem then il get into the MS if problem is not solved or even a caliper but i don't see how a caliper could be Making the problem i am having but i don't know anything about the brake system so i guess i will find out soon enough.. :?

[Feedman]

I think you misunderstood what I said about the QUALITY of brakes.

It doesn't matter that they are brand new, if they suck, they suck. The lifetime warrenty doesn't mean jack as performance is involved.... 8)

[xjoewhitex]

i know that... just would Crappy Brake pads be the problem when the brake pedal goes slowly to the floor when im at a complete stop? When im stoped i either have to press the pedal with a lot of pressure or pull the E-Brake.. :?

[Feedman]

i know that... just would Crappy Brake pads be the problem when the brake pedal goes slowly to the floor when im at a complete stop? When im stoped i either have to press the pedal with a lot of pressure or pull the E-Brake.. :?

maybe not. I thought you meant that after you got on the brake hard it faded out....thats why I responded with less than par pads. If you are stopped and it goes to the floor, low fluid, bleeding or Mc could be the cause....

Get it fixed asap...no brakes = no good.... 8)

[daveb91]

They must work have way decent as I saw you go flying by me in belpre a couple days ago. :lol:

[xjoewhitex]

hahah was i following a red eclipse :wink:

You should have honked...

[xjoewhitex]

Seems like the work that me and adam put into it was only temporary and the problem is now back but kinda worse, I thought i would go up to burdines just so they could tell me what they thought it was and he told me that it was most likly the MC, and the problem wasnt as much as a fluid leak but a pressure leak and thats why im loseing pressure at stop lights... :?

[Feedman]

Seems like the work that me and adam put into it was only temporary and the problem is now back but kinda worse, I thought i would go up to burdines just so they could tell me what they thought it was and he told me that it was most likly the MC, and the problem wasnt as much as a fluid leak but a pressure leak and thats why im loseing pressure at stop lights... :?


Yea if its back Joe, then your Mc is prolly bad. 8)

[xjoewhitex]

once again something else..... My passanger side window completely stoped working... I had no problems putting it up last night, and this morning i was putting it downbecause its hot out side.. and nothing :? is there a fuse maybe that went out or did the motor completely crap it self?

[Feedman]

once again something else..... My passanger side window completely stoped working... I had no problems putting it up last night, and this morning i was putting it downbecause its hot out side.. and nothing :? is there a fuse maybe that went out or did the motor completely crap it self?

If it was a fuse, check under your dash to see if any blew.

I would pull the door panel off, and see if its getting any power....if so, jump the motor to see if it works, could be a bad switch...

Good luck...

[xjoewhitex]

Problem solved... :oops: Window lock...

[MnAiXsImMoA]

Problem solved... :oops: Window lock...


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[xjoewhitex]

i don't know this could be a real problem but i could also be seeing things, but by front passanger side wheel is set back farther than my driver's side wheel.. and the other night someone said my wheel moved back a little bit when i stoped my car.. what would be the problem?

and by set back i mean its further towards the door...