D-series POWWA

[narfdanarf]

D16Z6...bone stock with ARP head studs 308whp and 262 tq
http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=2860



Completely built D16 with Blowzilla turbo at 33psi 502whp 370tq
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1017075&page=4
graph is located a little more than half way down page.

[Feedman]

D16Z6...bone stock with ARP head studs 308whp and 262 tq
http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=2860



Completely built D16 with Blowzilla turbo at 33psi 502whp 370tq
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1017075&page=4
graph is located a little more than half way down page.

Only a matter of time.... :twisted:

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[narfdanarf]

Another one, built up nicely: 554whp 408tq IMO not too great of a power band though, but he says he's working on reving it out further.



http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1345861&page=1

[andy5.0]

D series---represent---- LOL... I actually am too broke for a b series swap, so i will have to remain loyal to the ol' Y7 a little longer...But they can make power if built right and not beat on regularly.

[Feedman]

D series---represent---- LOL... I actually am too broke for a b series swap, so i will have to remain loyal to the ol' Y7 a little longer...But they can make power if built right and not beat on regularly.


I plan on making power and beating on it regularly....

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[narfdanarf]

He only wants 1k for it and it even has a AEM EMS....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 8015936314 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8015936314)

[Feedman]

He only wants 1k for it and it even has a AEM EMS....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 8015936314 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8015936314)

Negative...

Zero Feedback...

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[narfdanarf]

yeah saw that, oh well...tell him we'd pick it up...it's only in MD...we can make a stop at Turbo-charged's

[Feedman]

yeah saw that, oh well...tell him we'd pick it up...it's only in MD...we can make a stop at Turbo-charged's


Ha ha....

You got it all planned out...

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[Jspec EG6]

D16 Vtec Power indeed. . . . . .

ill always be to poor for a b16, b18 swap, and never rich enough for an h22.

[andy5.0]

nice lookin hatch ya have there Jspec... i dig the 5 lug conversion with the ITR wheels...looks good!!!

[Jspec EG6]

haha yea it is a nice hatch TO bad it isnt mine just a sweet sig. . . . .


But eventualy i hope to have my Hatch that JDM beautiful

MY HATCH-----> http://www.movfast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3345[/u]

[BLUEVOVIII]

thought it was interesting to see the one hatch w/the blowzilla turbo using AEM EMS... I thought the honda guys stuck to hondata?...just cause its cheaper and gets the job done I guess??? You will get there Adam, we will have a ton of fun this summer w/the cars :twisted:

[Chaos_cb7]

thought it was interesting to see the one hatch w/the blowzilla turbo using AEM EMS... I thought the honda guys stuck to hondata?...just cause its cheaper and gets the job done I guess??? You will get there Adam, we will have a ton of fun this summer w/the cars :twisted:

not all Honda users just the ones that are more then poor but less then rich. Us poor people have to actually work for our hp and learn how to chip and tune using uberdata or one of the other free tuners

[m pwrd 3]

Do you have any new updates on your build or the path you have chosen Justin?

[narfdanarf]

lol..well time was dwindling down, and so was my money lol I <3 food. So I chose to go NA and nitrous if I have enough leftover.

got my cam (stage 3 exospeed) and head stuff
p29 pistons (12.5:1 compression roughly)
b-series throttle body


I still have a few things to buy to put it together...gaskets, headstuds, bearings. And I want to get a SI final drive.

I got a line on a nitrous express wet kit for a 75shot, but I may have to sell my PSP to get it, plus then I'd need a new clutch, and prolly better tuning than I could do with just a wideband.

[Chaos_cb7]

If its a wet kit you wont need tunning sence it adds the fuel for you unless you nead that extra 2hp. You only nead a new clutch if you dont like the smell of your stock clutch melting. lol

Isnt there a lower gear then the si one. i was told to use an si tranny and a ZC final gear.

[daveb91]

not all Honda users just the ones that are more then poor but less then rich. Us poor people have to actually work for our hp and learn how to chip and tune using uberdata or one of the other free tuners

Im not poor but I like anything thats free GO TURBOEDIT!!!!

[narfdanarf]

There is no way I'm going to run a 75shot on stock cast pistons with 12.5:1 compression with stock timing....it's not for the power that it will increase, but mostly the safety so I can do it without worrying about it.



And about the clutch I don't mind the smell, but when I shift gears, I would like to go somewhere...shifting into second/third and having to wait 10 seconds before you let out on the clutch is gay. Not to mention there is no way my stock clutch could hold 100 more ft lbs of torque when nitrous hits.

You should take a look at the D-series gear ratio calculators. CRX DX and SI's have the same gear ratio's with different final drives, and the ZC has higher gear ratios with a lower final drive...I think it's about the same final drive as the DX.

[Chaos_cb7]

i thought you where going to put 75 on the stock motor. 75 shot with 12.5 is a little too close to boom for my taste. But will the D blocks not hold a 75 shot with the stock internals. The F series can and there not exactly race motors. Also i think all you need to do is change your timing 3 degrees at least that's what my car would of had if i actually installed my wet kit instead of selling it. If you had those high compression pistons who knows what you would have to do.

You'd go somewhere with the stock clutch... about 2in every 3 minuets. I think most Honda clutches start to slip with even just a 50 shot.

[Jay]

There is no way I'm going to run a 75shot on stock cast pistons with 12.5:1 compression with stock timing....it's not for the power that it will increase, but mostly the safety so I can do it without worrying about it.



And about the clutch I don't mind the smell, but when I shift gears, I would like to go somewhere...shifting into second/third and having to wait 10 seconds before you let out on the clutch is gay. Not to mention there is no way my stock clutch could hold 100 more ft lbs of torque when nitrous hits.

You should take a look at the D-series gear ratio calculators. CRX DX and SI's have the same gear ratio's with different final drives, and the ZC has higher gear ratios with a lower final drive...I think it's about the same final drive as the DX.


You either read too many magazines or not enough of them..

If youre going to completely rebuild the motor an youre not boring it (thinner sleeves) you arent in any additional danger. Nitrous is hard on motors plain and simple. The pistons however arent what I would worry about, the rods are. However if ppl can boost a D series then you can safely run a 75 shot to it. As long as you keep enough fuel supplied to it so you dont run lean youre fine. It would be a good idea however to run a few degrees retarded just to be safe. On fox's everyone would run them 3-7 degrees advanced, on the bottle however run them at the factory setting which is technically retarded a bit.

Stock clutches in those things suck. With minor bolt-on's most of them slip if youre speed shiftin. I dont understand why youre so worried about changing the gear ratios I really dont understand why you arent interested in installing a new clutch assembly.

Kids..
You cant make one point stronger w/out it effecting something downdraft of it. And if you arent getting the power to the concrete you are defeating your purpose.

[narfdanarf]

You can't run a 12.5:1 compression motor on stock timing with stock fuel on pump gas. So how could you do it with nitrous? That is why I'm going to get crome or neptune or something to tune it with.

2ndly I said If I got some nitrous I'd get a clutch, that is a given.

3rdly DX final drives are not as good as SI final drives.

[Chaos_cb7]

You can't run a 12.5:1 compression motor on stock timing with stock fuel on pump gas. So how could you do it with nitrous?

You need something to control a/f ratios for the higher compression pistons but not for the nitrous. You will only need to change the jets to suite your application. Those that run timing adjusters for there nitrous are running a lot more then 75 shot.

You can run 12.5:1 on pump gas check honda-tech there are a few people there running that on 91 octane.

[narfdanarf]

like I said before...jets will get you close, but i'd rather be perfect than close. As far as timing goes...better safe than sorry.


like stated before it will all be on pump gas.

[Racerx300zx]

I don't blame you for wanting to stay on the safe side, especially when dealing with a built motor, (of course safe isn't even close to safe imo, but no matter there), after dumping enough money to build the honda up to 12.5:1 I wouldn't wanna blow it either.

[Chaos_cb7]

Actually to be precise you don't want to be "perfect" you want to be running just a little rich to be safe. Tune the car in February to a "perfect" map and the first warm day BOOM or the other way around lol cant think.. Not saying you will tune it in February just giving the example. Either way if you have the money go for it sense you have to get all the tuning done anyways for the compression.

[narfdanarf]

Actually to be precise you don't want to be "perfect" you want to be running just a little rich to be safe. Tune the car in February to a "perfect" map and the first warm day BOOM or the other way around lol cant think.. Not saying you will tune it in February just giving the example. Either way if you have the money go for it sense you have to get all the tuning done anyways for the compression.

obviously "perfect" is a relative term. Perfect to me may not be perfect to you, and in different engines, perfect isn't the same ratio.

It would run richer in the summer. Which is to say running rich it prolly won't go boom, but it could run rich enough to wash the rings out which would drop compression.

[xjoewhitex]

Being your name is true or not.. You and your name beats it on the lame scale.. 8)