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Jay
03-08-2009, 07:51 PM
We have all heard the stories, seen the pics, read the threads, made the jokes.
Keeping that in mind, and scouring the net for a documented case, I could not find 1 case where a person actually used this kit on their mustang w/bad results. The closest I could find was a guy who had fitment issues but then sold the kit.

I was assured that fitment would not be an issue (w/the exception of the probs I knew I would have using the 351) with this kit, and that I would not experience any of the commonly thrown about problems ppl supposedly have w/these kits.


THAT BEING SAID,

I received a VERY generous offer from SSAC to use their kit. In return I am to give them a copy of the downpipes which I need to modify for the 351. They sent me 2 downpipe kits, one to modify for mock-up and the other to do for them. I am also documenting my entire process from begin to finish. They will use my car as the example for their TT mustang kit.

The kit itself looks very nice. It is also complete from top to bottom. If I were putting it on the stock 302 powerplant I could just start wrenching. It comes w/downpipes and everything else you need.

As soon as I get the rest unboxed I'll begin snapping pics.

I plan on getting one of the spare 351 blocks and heads on a stand in the next day or two, then begin mocking it up. I will have to change a bit of the piping to fit my intake, and unsure what will need done on the hot side yet. The 351 is just at an inch taller, and a bit wider. I will be using convertible motor mounts which will sit the motor about 3/4" lower in the car, as well as a tubular K member. So I may be able to get away with not modifying anything, but you never know.

I am ditching the a/c, the p/s and p/b. So that should free up a lot of room in the engine bay as well as clean things up a tad. My batt is already in the trunk, so I do not have to worry about space there.

Should be an interesting build.

badcoupe50
03-08-2009, 09:56 PM
Good luck with it Jay. I looked into this kit before I bought my Vortech. There were a lot of complaints about cheap chinese turbos cracking and poor support from ss auto chrome. Maybe they are better now? If they worked out the problems, the car should run like a raped ape.

Jay
03-08-2009, 10:01 PM
Good luck with it Jay. I looked into this kit before I bought my Vortech. There were a lot of complaints about cheap chinese turbos cracking and poor support from ss auto chrome. Maybe they are better now? If they worked out the problems, the car should run like a raped ape.

The kit I have isnt even the one they have pictured on the website. Guess we'll find out.

badcoupe50
03-08-2009, 10:24 PM
Worst case scenario the turbos are junk. You can always get better quality turbos later. I`d like to do a dart block with twins. Maybe if I blow this one up. They`re actually selling downpipes with the kit now? You used to have to fab your own.

Jay
03-09-2009, 02:17 AM
Worst case scenario the turbos are junk. You can always get better quality turbos later. I`d like to do a dart block with twins. Maybe if I blow this one up. They`re actually selling downpipes with the kit now? You used to have to fab your own.

Yea it's complete.
And I agree, if it self destructs oh well..

badcoupe50
03-27-2009, 08:59 PM
Have you made any progress on the turbo 351 Jay?

Jay
03-27-2009, 10:02 PM
Have you made any progress on the turbo 351 Jay?


..touchy subject lol.

My motor is still sitting in the same flippin spot I left it to get bored, and crank polished.
Needless to say im pissed, and im gona just take it to Watson Ruppel.

Danny and I talked about buying a motor from some dood in mtta, which I think is you? lol
306 w/edelbrock shit on it.

badcoupe50
03-29-2009, 03:11 PM
That would be me. I have a 306 with Edelbrock Performer heads. My brother has a 302 with a holley systemax kit that he may sell also. I`ve got a 4v 4.6 that would be cool, too. Maybe we could do some dealing??

daveb91
03-29-2009, 06:32 PM
Deal hell yeah Jay will deal hes THE dealer of cars and car parts hes Nino Brown of car parts....

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/new-jack-wesley-snipes_l.jpg

Jay
03-29-2009, 06:52 PM
That would be me. I have a 306 with Edelbrock Performer heads. My brother has a 302 with a holley systemax kit that he may sell also. I`ve got a 4v 4.6 that would be cool, too. Maybe we could do some dealing??

We talked about putting a mod motor in it but I dont want to have to buy dif headers ect. to make the turbo work on a mod motor.

My next coupe I plan on going that route tho..

Current plan is to take the 351 to Watson Ruppel and have everything balanced w/the new pistons ect. and block bored. Run high compression and spray the shit out of it. Drop it in the coupe sitting outside. I was going to chevy power it, but I already have the motor, Danny has a c4, ect. It's just gona be the community race car for us all to go beat on lol.

So what's up w/the 306's?
Stock rods & shit or what?
I'm up for doin some dealin' lol.

badcoupe50
03-29-2009, 10:04 PM
The 306 is stock crank and rods with forged pistons. It was balanced. It`s got performer heads, tfs stage 1 cam, scorpion rockers, cobra intake, 70mm bbk tb, 24lb injectors. I`m still on the fence on weather to use this engine or run the mod from the mark viii. I may be open to selling/trading either one.

Jay
03-30-2009, 08:42 AM
Ew stock rods.. that'll need changed lol.

Price?

badcoupe50
03-30-2009, 08:13 PM
I`d like to get $1,500 out of it. The engine has around 1000 miles on it. It could easily have the rods changed. When my friend had it built he wasn`t trying to make it the fastest thing around. That`s why the rods are stock.

kmetz
03-30-2009, 09:54 PM
I never did understand anyone "building" an engine using a stock block. The block is really the weakest link. It seems to usually go before the rods, pistons, or crank.

Ew stock rods.. that'll need changed lol.

Price?

badcoupe50
03-30-2009, 10:10 PM
It really just depends on the engine`s intended use. If you`re not wanting more than 300-350 hp, stock bottom ends are adequate.

Jay
03-30-2009, 10:50 PM
I never did understand anyone "building" an engine using a stock block. The block is really the weakest link. It seems to usually go before the rods, pistons, or crank.

Ew stock rods.. that'll need changed lol.

Price?


The stock rods will go before the block does.

brummy
03-31-2009, 08:55 AM
I never did understand anyone "building" an engine using a stock block. The block is really the weakest link. It seems to usually go before the rods, pistons, or crank.

Ew stock rods.. that'll need changed lol.

Price?


The stock rods will go before the block does.

I was going to say, I don't know much about other engines, but the Focus' weak point is its rods. The block has been proven to be pretty strong, but the rods can only take up to 12 or so psi and under 250whp.