Time to outfit the SD

[Jay]

Tho the stock setup is actually rather decent.. I hate not having an in-dash tv, as I have become so used to it.

I picked one of these up..
http://www.soundstream.com/Video%20Products/images/vir6500-top.jpg

Double Din A/V Source Unit w/ 6.5” TFT-LCD Touch Screen
• Motorized TFT-LCD w/ 5 Pre-Set Angles & Last Angle Memory
• Front Panel Feather Touch Sensor Controls
• Car-Spec DVD Transport for Extreme Temperature Exposure
• Playback from DVDR/RW & CDR/RW Including VCD, MP3, MP4 & DiviX
• Recall Memory for Last DVD Position
• Dual Zone
• i-Pod Input Connection (requires IC-1)
• SD Card Reader for MP3, MP4, DiviX & Xvid Playback
• 12 FM / 6 AM Station Memory
• 50w x 4 MOSFET Powered Speaker Level Outputs
• Front & Rear Pre-Amp Outputs
• Variable Subwoofer Pre-Amp Output w/ LPF (80, 120, 160Hz)
• A/V Outputs for Multiple Components
• 2 A/V Inputs for Secondary Source
• Reverse Camera Input w/ Trigger
• Custom & Pre-Set EQ Settings
• Audio Staging Controls
• 12/24 Hour Clock
• USA/European Frequency Stepping
• NTSC/PAL Auto Selection
• 432 x 242 Screen Resolution
• 400 NIT Backlight Brightness




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Next on the list are speakers..
Each door has a 6x8 in it. (4 doors)

For that I have chosen Soundstream's XT series
6x8" speakers
3 way system
200 watt RMS each
400 watts total system output
12 OZ Magnets
Frequency Response: 50 HZ - 20 KHZ
1" voice coils
Sensitivity: 91 dB
Developed using new technologies
high-tech materials to give you great looks, and sound
TPU surrounds
Zirconium coated cones give you clean crisp sound
Powder coated basket
Aluminum Coated Cone
Rubber Surround
BASV Voice Coil
Impedance: 4 ohm
Mounting depth: 2.75"




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For subs I need something shallow. There's not much room behind the rear seat for a box.. I can get a pre-fab box which has 0.5 cubic ft on each side to run a dual sub setup, or 1 cubic ft for 1 sub.


I am still doing some research in the shallow sub department, but I have found these..


http://stereointegrity.com/bm.php
» FEA optimized XBL^2™ motor
» Dual 4 Ohm voice coil configuration
» 500 watt power handling
» 2.5” copper voice coil wound on an aluminum former
» Inverted foam surround
» Honeycomb composite cone
» Shallow mount design (3.5”)
» Tiny enclosure requirements
» Lightweight design

Recommended enclosures:
» 0.5 cubic feet sealed
» Recommended power range: 200-500 watts RMS.

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Now amp.. I have not yet chosen one lol.

[Racerx300zx]

Nice so far man, sounds similar to the issues I've had with the Z, no space whatsoever for a sub. Def wanna see some pics after you get everything in place.

[Jay]

Nice so far man, sounds similar to the issues I've had with the Z, no space whatsoever for a sub. Def wanna see some pics after you get everything in place.


Yea the rear seat is limited on space thats for sure.
JL makes a sub that goes inside of the console, but I forsee that causing all kinds of rattling issues if anything is in it. Also it eliminates all of your storage.

A buddy of mine has 2 shallow JL's behind his rear seat and tho it does sound good, it just is not loud enough IMO.

So I am researching some subs..

I could get away with a traditional sub as long as it was not too deep, but I need something that works well in very little airspace.

The one cool thing here is the truck comes stock with 2 huge ass batteries and a big ass alternator.
Power supply-wise all I am going to do is a cap.

[Racerx300zx]

Couple of options, either a JL Stealthbox, Open air sub, or one of the self contained amp sub units. The Stealthbox is probably the best bet, and I've seen a couple guys say that you can get the box custom tuned to whatever sub you want, thus making more volume or more boom. The open air subs aren't going to hit as hard but you can get good quality or high volume out of them. And the Self contained subs are a last resort, not great at anything, but, cheap and easy to install.

[daveb91]

Screw the subs get 10 of those 6x9 wedge boxs withe Pioneer 4 ways and rock on!!!!!

[Jay]

Couple of options, either a JL Stealthbox, Open air sub, or one of the self contained amp sub units. The Stealthbox is probably the best bet, and I've seen a couple guys say that you can get the box custom tuned to whatever sub you want, thus making more volume or more boom. The open air subs aren't going to hit as hard but you can get good quality or high volume out of them. And the Self contained subs are a last resort, not great at anything, but, cheap and easy to install.


I am not even close to impressed w/what JL has to offer for my truck.
Heard them all and none of them are very loud.

For instance a JL may outperform ohh a solobaric at lets say 200w. But push it to the limits of 400x+ which is beyond what the shallow jl can handle, and it is way louder ect.

So even if I go with a less effecient sub, if i run 2x or more power to it, it will eprform.

[Racerx300zx]

Eh, I wouldn't run the JL subs in the box, just for the box itself. Some of the older JL stuff I liked, but, lately haven't been super impressed.

[Jay]

Eh, I wouldn't run the JL subs in the box, just for the box itself. Some of the older JL stuff I liked, but, lately haven't been super impressed.


Ok, I get what you are saying now.. i kinda mis-read.

I found a nice box for my truck. Im pretty limited anyhow on box design/space.

[keesor]

Jay, if you're looking for a cap I have an 8 farad soundstream that I'd be willing to give you a good deal on.

[Jay]

shoot me a price chachi

[daveb91]

8 farad WOW!!

[Jay]

I dono if I have room to fit that bitch anywhere.. I'll see tho.

[Jay]

My current amps are both old school PPI. the one running my high end and the one running my sub.
I took my sub out because I just did not care for the way it sounded..


I picked up a new Memphis class-D amp which produces 1000w RMS at 1ohm.
At 2ohms it produces 600w RMS
(I figure "real world power" being a bit less than what is stated but who knows..)

Picked up two 13tw5 13.5" JL Audio subs.
Each sub is 3ohm which is odd.. but running them in parallel will show
the amp 1.5 ohms, which I guesstimate will turn out 800w RMS if you
consider the diference in ohm & output.

I don't know anything about Memphis, but read some good reviews on them
by way of performance vs. price.

Running these subs in series (6ohm load) to my PPI bridged mono does not sound too bad, but just not enough power to push them. I hope to get the new amp hooked up tomorrow..

[Racerx300zx]

Holy shit you're alive! And sounds like good progress so far man, keep us updated and get some pics of that stuff.

[daveb91]

You get the amps online?? are you using a built in crossover or ext??? I think a good crossover makes a world of difference too.

[Jay]

You get the amps online?? are you using a built in crossover or ext??? I think a good crossover makes a world of difference too.

Built in for the highs and sub out from the head unit.
I agree though, I think I need a crossover.

Im thinking of picking up some q-logic kick panels too.. cause the factory speaker locations are less than ideal and im just not getting the sound I want.

[Jay]

Holy shit you're alive! And sounds like good progress so far man, keep us updated and get some pics of that stuff.

Yea barely. Been working a lot lately.

[stingray098]

Those Class D amps run pretty cool under a load correct?? You got it up and running yet hows the sound quality and this is in a truck???

[Jay]

Those Class D amps run pretty cool under a load correct?? You got it up and running yet hows the sound quality and this is in a truck???

Yes, it's in an F350

So far im just running 1 sub because I have my amps mounted behind the seat too, but that will change..
It was a quick afternoon/night install.

I need to make a rack for under the seat ect. ect.

The amp runs cooler than I ever imagined. Even when youre really beating on it.

It sounds good thus far but I still need to order those q-logic panels

[stingray098]

So is that like most crew cabs??You have a crew right? The back seat folds up for storage? How much room is there?

[Jay]

So is that like most crew cabs??You have a crew right? The back seat folds up for storage? How much room is there?


Yea, Crew/4dr
Actually there is quite a bit of room under the back seats. Some ppl even put their sub(s) under it. There is a "working tray" that's powdercoated steel that folds out from under it that has to be removed.

I am thinking about getting a new head unit though for the simple fact of I cant change the background/wallpaper on this one..

[daveb91]

Hmm knowing Jay I wonder what he would use for a background.............

[Jay]

A photoshopped pic of the turbo interceptor, parked in front of bill & ted's phone booth, with jenna jameson inside of it.

[stingray098]

WTF Bill and Teds phone booth????? SO CRATES??

[Jay]

Rufus!!