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Pocket_RocketMan
11-15-2004, 09:24 AM
I would like to know what the diffrence between the f22b and the h22 is for a prelude?

Feedman
11-15-2004, 03:27 PM
I would like to know what the diffrence between the f22b and the h22 is for a prelude?

Gonna take a stab @ this...

I don't know the specs, but weren't the F series in accords while the H series were found in Preludes....

Thats all I got.... 8)

daveb91
11-15-2004, 05:12 PM
F series were sohc and the hseries had dohc. There is a kind of minime swap were you can put a h series head on a F block but not all combos will work. H is were the performance is at.

Feedman
11-15-2004, 05:28 PM
F series were sohc and the hseries had dohc. There is a kind of minime swap were you can put a h series head on a F block but not all combos will work. H is were the performance is at.

Yea...forgot to mention that....sohc vs dohc...

I didn't know you could swap the heads though....interesting...

I know some guys that have boosted the f series and made some good power... 8)

Pocket_RocketMan
11-17-2004, 11:14 AM
F series were sohc and the hseries had dohc. There is a kind of minime swap were you can put a h series head on a F block but not all combos will work. H is were the performance is at.

Yea...forgot to mention that....sohc vs dohc...

I didn't know you could swap the heads though....interesting...

I know some guys that have boosted the f series and made some good power... 8)


Yea but i have seen a dohc f22b on a cite. go to http://www.ateelausa.com/inventory.php#acura
or http://www.noyanengines.com/

jchouse
11-17-2004, 12:14 PM
The f22b is crap, the only f series motor worth getting is this one:
http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc200 ... item=30012 (http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=page&item=30012)

I would stick with the h series, I would think that the aftermarket would be stronger for the h series

narfdanarf
11-17-2004, 12:40 PM
I don't know...I heard you can boost the shit out of an F series...

jchouse
11-17-2004, 12:46 PM
what I'm trying to say is I don't think it would be worth swapping into a different car, if it was in a accord and that is what you wanted then fine, but swap a f series into a civic or a crx or something would be a waste of time. I don't even know if the make mounts to put a f series engine into a civic, i know they do for the h series.

narfdanarf
11-17-2004, 12:50 PM
Yeah, I know what you meant, I was just sayin....they aren't all bad...just not worth swapping...

Pocket_RocketMan
11-17-2004, 12:55 PM
Fellas i am planning on putting this engine in a honda prelude. Now with that info, will this be a better chouce.

jchouse
11-17-2004, 12:58 PM
I would still go with the h22 but its up to you. Unless you want to spend 3500 dollars and buy this: http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc200 ... item=30012 (http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=page&item=30012)

now thats a good f series motor

xjoewhitex
11-17-2004, 01:05 PM
i don't know why people are wanting to put these f series in ludes? when they already come with H22 H23's :?

jchouse
11-17-2004, 01:08 PM
if the engine blows or something it would be cheaper to put a f series in it to get it running again, thats my guess

Pocket_RocketMan
11-17-2004, 02:02 PM
Fellas first off, the car doesn't have an engine. Second, the engine on that cite is not an f22b it is an f20b for 97 and up models. I am talking about 92-96 models.

xjoewhitex
11-17-2004, 02:11 PM
Fellas first off, the car doesn't have an engine. Second, the engine on that cite is not an f22b it is an f20b for 97 and up models. I am talking about 92-96 models. lol.. so you've found a f20b that you want to fit into a lude? i guess it wouldnt be all that bad if thas all you could find... 8)

Kurt_W
11-17-2004, 02:56 PM
Ok, any F- or H- series FWD engine and transmission (92-~00) will fit in to 92-96 Prelude. The F engine (F23 I believe) was the the stock engine in the 92-96 Prelude S, the H23 was in the SI and the H22 was in the 93-96 VTEC.

Personally, I would go with a H23 at least if I were dropping an engine into Prelude that didn't have an engine. If you are seriously interested in a F engine, there are 2 at a junkyard I deal with regularly. One is a 92 and the other is a 96. (Note that the ECU changed to OBDII in 96.)

As for the difference between an F22 and a H22? the F22 was ~145hp & ~155 ft/lb and the H22 was 190-210hp & 156 ft/lb depending on variant.

Feedman
11-17-2004, 04:01 PM
Price differences ?

I am not that familiar with the Prelude swaps.

What engines "drop" in with little to no fabbing..... 8)

TruDSMTuner
11-18-2004, 12:01 PM
I would roll teh h22vtec motor, there cheap on ebay.

my buddy hasa 93 prelude h2a vtec we got it running best 9.49 with jsut a cold air intake, header, exhaust, apexi vafc.

what kinda honda's going ot pull that. that's not turbo charged..

my other buddy has 97 ex with a jdm b18c and tranny, with exhaust and intake, clutch flywheel, he could only run a 9.7

check the price difference for a jdm h22a vtec and a jdm b18c vtec

h22a wins cheaper better horses.. just my .02 Justin

p.s Get a dsm and not have to worry about which motor to put in, jsut got got to worry about what turbo to put in... Vtec all the lag none of the boost.. :lol:

j/k i love all cars

just my .02 Justin

jchouse
11-18-2004, 12:22 PM
p.s Get a dsm and not have to worry about which motor to put in, jsut got got to worry about what turbo to put in... Vtec all the lag none of the boost.. :lol:

just my .02 Justin

thats cute

Feedman
11-18-2004, 12:49 PM
A properly driven gsr will hit 9.5 in the 8th with the mods you listed.

I would go with the H series myself...like you mentioned....better price and more performance.... 8)

crxhybrid88
11-18-2004, 01:41 PM
Three years ago I bought my first B16a1 put it in a crx ran 9.4 in the 1/8 like a religion. If you cant get a B anything in a 9.5 bracket its the driver or the motor needs some help. B16s are deff. a start but not a good motor for racing. You need the torque of the B18 along with the hi rev of the B16 to make a diff. Speed only comes with money.You only go as fast as you can spend.

Pocket_RocketMan
11-18-2004, 02:47 PM
Ok people, i am going to pick from the F22B or the H22. Which of the two should i go with because i have heard good and bad about both. i plan plan on making either of the two very fast. so which will help me in the long run.

TruDSMTuner
11-18-2004, 03:13 PM
i would lean torwards the h22a, only becasue i have seen it's performance, and ability to be raged on and still hold up.. you can get a swap off ebay for around 2000.00.

you jsut need to research them both and see what is best for what your wanting to do.. or maybe go off which one you can find cheaper to start with. many people have many differnet ways of doing things.

just my .02