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[Feedman]

All I can say is watch out for Stage III Srt-4's...

Newest #'s released are as follows:

The results are 345 WHP and 362 WTQ with the race gas switch on.

Of course I won't have to worry...lol...just sharing... 8)

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthr ... ost1326524 (http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1326524#post1326524)

[andy5.0]

its still a f%#king neon....thats like having a 800 HP Gremlin.....still ghey...

[Feedman]

its still a f%#king neon....thats like having a 800 HP Gremlin.....still ghey...

Normally I would agree...but as long as someone is cool and puts hard work into there car...I am going to respect it....regardless of the make/model.... 8)

[xjoewhitex]

well, i don't feel the same way.. I think the Srt-4's are nice cars they don't have the same body style as the other neons and a more powerful motor... I think the lancers are about the same way... having a Evo and then having a Standard lancer... can't even compare 8)

[Jay]

its still a f%#king neon....thats like having a 800 HP Gremlin.....still ghey...

didnt i allready say that like eleventeen times?
great minds think alike..

in my opinion the neon is a cheap econobox vehicle, it looks cheap, the interior is cheap, its a cheap car with a decent drivetrain. The EVO is what I consider an exceptionally nice vehicle, however it's under-dog alter ego is even tho in a way an econo car, is stil nice inside, the interior is really nice i think, and stil looks good on the outside.. an 03' GT is nice, an 03' Cobra is awesome, an 03 Lancer is nice, 03' EVO is awesome, 03' neon is ghey, 03' srt4 is less ghey.. get the idea? It's the 'you cant polish a turd' theory

[RobbieNelson]

FWIW... I like em'

[Jay]

FWIW... I like em'

well someone's got to i guess.. lol

[s2kosu]

I can't stand SRT-4's, but that's just my opinion. It would have been cool if Dodge used this engine with another body. Just sticking it in the Neon was a bad idea I think.

[daveb91]

I can't stand SRT-4's, but that's just my opinion. It would have been cool if Dodge used this engine with another body. Just sticking it in the Neon was a bad idea I think.

They do its called the PT Cruiser.

[ShortysTRM]

It would have been cool if Dodge used this engine with another body.

Yeah, like a PT cruiser...that would be genius! Too bad they never thought of it :roll: . Everyone's a critic. Frankly, I would be much more intimidated by an SRT-4 than a 5.0 Mustang. They're a lot faster. Aren't they faster than a VR4, too (especially a motorless one)? Weren't VR4's like $35,000 new? And to say that a Neon is some kind of sh!tbox while a Lancer is a nice car is, well, kind of dumb. I guess everyone has their own opinion, right? If you can buy a fast car for $20K that has factory produced performance parts (and kits, like stage 1,2, and 3), an accepting warranty department, a company that isn't on the verge of bankruptcy, a limited slip diff, nice seats, and (no offense to Davis) a f*cking CD player, then something tells me that it deserves some respect even if it is "ghey." I guess it's not l33t enough for you guys.

*edit* Dave hadn't posted yet when I started ranting.

[daveb91]

A Neon is a $hitbox I should know but a SRT-4 is a fast $hitbox but like said its still a Neon a fast one would I spend 20k on one... hell no. The Mopar performance group is though one of the best customer support groups out there I have asked many questions and bought some things off of them and they never led me down the wrong road. Knowledgable guys.

[Jay]

It would have been cool if Dodge used this engine with another body.

Yeah, like a PT cruiser...that would be genius! Too bad they never thought of it :roll: . Everyone's a critic. Frankly, I would be much more intimidated by an SRT-4 than a 5.0 Mustang. They're a lot faster. Aren't they faster than a VR4, too (especially a motorless one)? Weren't VR4's like $35,000 new? And to say that a Neon is some kind of sh!tbox while a Lancer is a nice car is, well, kind of dumb. I guess everyone has their own opinion, right? If you can buy a fast car for $20K that has factory produced performance parts (and kits, like stage 1,2, and 3), an accepting warranty department, a company that isn't on the verge of bankruptcy, a limited slip diff, nice seats, and (no offense to Davis) a f*cking CD player, then something tells me that it deserves some respect even if it is "ghey." I guess it's not l33t enough for you guys.

*edit* Dave hadn't posted yet when I started ranting.

hrm.. even if an SRT4 could outrun a VR4 which I really cant see.. 3 of my friends have had them an they are fast to say the least.. it's stil a neon. The VR4 was 30k+ new, you know why? Because it's a nice car! Look at the body styling, interior, ect. it's not some econobox. If youre more intimidated by an SRT4 than a 5.0 then you obviously havent riden in a nice one.. stock for stock tho odds are the SRT4 may put it on the mustang, but youre also comparing a car built in 87-93-94/95 vs. something built this year. I could put a twin turbo setup on my mustang, but even tho it'll have a boatload of horse it's stil a friggin mustang.. no ones gona give me a 2nd look once a vette pulls up along side.

You can put big motors in econobox cars, an thats what you have.. a fast econobox. Comparing an SRT4 to a VR4 is like comparing a Focus SVT to a Cobra SVT

[ShortysTRM]

Comparing an SRT4 to a VR4 is like comparing a Focus SVT to a Cobra SVT

You're right, at least in a world led by Pimp My Ride. It looks better, has more power, AWD, and probably a lot of nicer features. But it's heavy, bloated, and quite underwhelming for what it should be. Once again, I'm comparing new and old technology. But, what about a GMC Syclone? It's old, domestic, and a friggin truck. It could outrun a VR4 with ease, and it's only available in an automatic. If you're comparing along the same price range but from a different time period, then technology matters. However, the SRT-4 shouldn't have any technologies that the VR4 doesn't have. A 5.0 can be made into a fast car, but in stock form it's a turd. Like most automotive turds, though, it CAN be polished. The way I look at it, if one car is faster than another, especially stock for stock, then you can't just call it ghey and that's it. A car's interior or exterior looks don't really buy it much in my book. I think comparing an SVT Cobra to an SVT focus would be more like comparing an AWD turbo Eclipse to an AWD turbo 3000GT. Just because you could buy a 4 cylinder Fox Body doesn't mean they're all "ghey," it just means that if they ask if you want the cheapest one, you say no.

[s2kosu]

I can't stand SRT-4's, but that's just my opinion. It would have been cool if Dodge used this engine with another body. Just sticking it in the Neon was a bad idea I think.

They do its called the PT Cruiser.

I realize this, but that car sucks too. So something other than those 2.

[daveb91]

Mexican Stratus. MDM yo!

[s2kosu]

It would have been cool if Dodge used this engine with another body.

Yeah, like a PT cruiser...that would be genius! Too bad they never thought of it :roll:



Easy there killer. I do know this.

[s2kosu]

It would have been cool if Dodge used this engine with another body.

If you can buy a fast car for $20K that has factory produced performance parts (and kits, like stage 1,2, and 3), an accepting warranty department, a company that isn't on the verge of bankruptcy, a limited slip diff, nice seats, and (no offense to Davis) a f*cking CD player, then something tells me that it deserves some respect even if it is "ghey." I guess it's not l33t enough for you guys.

*edit* Dave hadn't posted yet when I started ranting.

Here's my OPINION. SRT-4's are for those people looking to go fast in a straight line and don't care about luxury, exterior styling, the interior, or anything else for that matter. Sure performance kits are nice, limited slip in the '04+'s is nice, but that is about it. The interior is cheap, other than the oh so great Viper inspired seats. The exterior is riced out. I can't stand the painted calipers, the high wing etc. etc. There is no class to the car at all. I think this car is for high school kids who want to impress their boy friends at school with the great power. Oh well, I give it credit for being quick, but that's it.

[daveb91]

Painted calipers, high wing oh you mean like on Evos and STi.

[s2kosu]

Yeah I think it looks like shit on those cars too.

[daveb91]

Anyway just like the original post says stage 3 makes it damn fast still a cheap made car with a hot little motor. Dodge has done this for some time Omni glhs, Shelby daytona, Shelby Shadow................

[ShortysTRM]

The interior is cheap, other than the oh so great Viper inspired seats. The exterior is riced out. I can't stand the painted calipers, the high wing etc. etc. There is no class to the car at all.

Wow, you just nailed the Evo and STi, too. They are econoboxes with econo interiors with nice seats. They also have painted calipers and really high wings. I'd pay 30K for an Evo or and STi before I'd pay it for an S2000, though. BUT, before you get me wrong, I respect S2000's and I do think they're nice cars. I'd make a joke about the extremely low torque #'s and the annoyingly high power-band, but then I'd be ignoring the numbers that count...the actual performance numbers. The performance numbers are pretty good for S2000's. Their straght-line numbers are about the same as an SRT-4. (I am just assuming that you own an S2000 because of your screen name. I saw you selling some WRX parts, so if you have a WRX, there's still nothing really to say to make fun of your car. I mean, after all, I like econoboxes with turbocharged engines.)

*edit again* Man, this thread is hot...there were 3 posts while I was typing this

[s2kosu]

I have owned a Civic, RSX Type-S, WRX and S2000. So I have experience with a little bit of everything. At this point, I do own an S2000. Greatest car on the list by far. To each their own. I would rather buy an S2000 than Evo, STi. They are nice cars, but RWD is my favorite by far having owned a WRX. Once the Comptech Supercharger goes on, I'll be loving it even more.

[ShortysTRM]

Sounds like you have a lot of experience with Honda's.

But yeah, as the thread started with, that stage 3 kit is insane. I remember when the SRT-4's were yet to be released and they had already said they were going to develop kits all the way to stage 3. It was only supposed to produce 300 HP at the time, though. Given the fact that the development for this kit started a couple years ago, I bet that it's pretty straight forward and well tuned.

[s2kosu]

Sorry, I didn't catch the thead at first. Just when the fighting started. Yes, nice stage 3 numbers. :lol:

[RobbieNelson]

Off Topic:

I'm just jealous of the push-button start on the S2000. :lol:

[ShortysTRM]

Don't you still have to put the key in the ignition and turn it on? You can buy a push button starter for pretty cheap, but I guess it's just not the same.

[s2kosu]

Yeah you have to turn the key to the on position... it would suck if people could just break in and press the button to start it with no key

[Davis Silver Sti]

All I can say is watch out for Stage III Srt-4's...

Newest #'s released are as follows:

The results are 345 WHP and 362 WTQ with the race gas switch on.

Of course I won't have to worry...lol...just sharing... 8)

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthr ... ost1326524 (http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1326524#post1326524)




That some serious power out of the 4cyl.
I'm trying to figure out how a SRT-4 is going to put that power to the ground on normal-ish tires. (I'm assuming they'll have to be much wider than the stockers!)

My friend has a 911 TT Porsche with a modded GT1 engine. It has something around 750+ dyno tuned HP. Its an absoulute beast to drive, trust me my hands were full drive it. The suspension was competely sorted out as well as incredbily huge fat rear r-compound tires..375/35/18 from what I remember. It really needed this for the huge HP and Torque.

My point is, I love HP just like anybody else, but how is someone gong to put down 300-350+ hp on a front wheel drive street car?

[ShortysTRM]

The same way one would put down 600-700 HP in an AWD..? I have seen videos of 500 HP street SRT-4's though I'm sure they weren't reliable.

[Davis Silver Sti]

The same way one would put down 600-700 HP in an AWD..?

It would no doubt be easier in a AWD.

[daveb91]

AWD is nothing compared to tank tracks. Take that Subey boy!

[Davis Silver Sti]

AWD is nothing compared to tank tracks. Take that Subey boy!

:lol: :lol:

u got me

[narfdanarf]

istank takrnks not awd